For the Record: Candid Conversations about Criminal Record Clearance—Episode 3, Bettie Kirkland

Bettie Kirkland, the executive director of Project Return in Nashville, joins For the Record to discuss her organization’s work connecting hundreds of people who have criminal records to employment each year and reflects on what it means to ensure they have a chance at success.

To listen, please click here.

About For The Record

Around 70 million adults in the United States have a criminal record, and thousands more work to help those with records succeed in their communities. Each one of these people has a story.

This interview series, produced as part of the Clean Slate Clearinghouse, explores the varying perspectives on often overlooked and underexplored aspects of criminal records and what it means to clear them. In each episode, Rashawn Davis, a policy analyst at The Council of State Governments (CSG) Justice Center, sits down with people in the field—which include those with criminal records as well as policymakers, lawyers, and social workers, among others—to capture their experiences and their visions for the future of criminal record clearance.

For the Record: Candid Conversations about Criminal Record Clearance—Episode 2, Esta Bigler

Esta Bigler, the director of the Cornell University Industrial and Labor Relations School’s Labor and Employment Law program, joins For the Record to discuss her work regarding record clearance as a lawyer, which has ranged from creating educational programming to working on a groundbreaking U.S. Supreme Court case.

To listen, please click here.

About For The Record

Around 70 million adults in the United States have a criminal record, and thousands more work to help those with records succeed in their communities. Each one of these people has a story.

This interview series, produced as part of the Clean Slate Clearinghouse, explores the varying perspectives on often overlooked and underexplored aspects of criminal records and what it means to clear them. In each episode, Rashawn Davis, a policy analyst at The Council of State Governments (CSG) Justice Center, sits down with people in the field—which include those with criminal records as well as policymakers, lawyers, and social workers, among others—to capture their experiences and their visions for the future of criminal record clearance.

For the Record: Candid Conversations about Criminal Record Clearance—Episode 1, Khalil Cumberbatch

Khalil Cumberbatch, an associate vice president at the Fortune Society, joins the podcast to discuss his experiences living with a criminal record and receiving a gubernatorial pardon as well as his current efforts as a criminal justice reform advocate and his vision for the future of criminal record clearance.

To listen, please click here.

About For the Record

Around 70 million adults in the United States have a criminal record, and thousands more work to help those with records succeed in their communities. Each one of these people has a story.

This interview series, produced as part of the Clean Slate Clearinghouse, explores the varying perspectives on often overlooked and underexplored aspects of criminal records and what it means to clear them. In each episode, Rashawn Davis, a policy analyst at The Council of State Governments (CSG) Justice Center, sits down with people in the field—which include those with criminal records as well as policymakers, lawyers, and social workers, among others—to capture their experiences and their visions for the future of criminal record clearance.

Seeking New Perspective, Interview Series Gives Firsthand Look at Criminal Record Clearance Experiences

By Carla Sinclair, CSG Justice Center staff

With awareness of the need for criminal justice reform on the rise across the country, hearing stories about people who have criminal records isn’t all that uncommon. But a new interview series is allowing listeners to actually hear how these records have impacted lives as well as the discourse surrounding criminal record clearance.

For the Record is produced by the Clean Slate Clearinghouse, a project funded by the U.S. Departments of Labor and Justice that provides resources that help individuals with criminal records learn more about removing, or “clearing,” those records from easy public access. The series features conversations between Rashawn Davis—a policy analyst at The Council of State Governments (CSG) Justice Center—and people who are involved in the criminal record clearance field, including elected officials, lawyers, social workers, and people who have or have had a juvenile or criminal record (or individuals who are all four, or more).

Davis and his guests will highlight the underexplored experiences, perspectives, and policy advances that are shaping the field and impacting the futures of people who have juvenile or criminal records.

“By exploring the narratives around the people who work, advocate, and benefit from record clearance, we bring color to a subject that is too often seen in black and white,” Davis explained. “The show helps to bring voices into the dialogue that aren’t often heard. This hopefully helps to expand the discussion around record clearance and can act as a model for other areas of criminal justice, which plays into the Clean Slate Clearinghouse’s goal to be a nexus for criminal record clearance resources.”

The inaugural episode was released on March 6, 2018, and features an interview with criminal justice reform advocate Khalil Cumberbatch, an associate vice president with the Fortune Society and someone who has an intimate knowledge of the series’ subject: he spent almost seven years in prison, and four years after that with a criminal record until he received a gubernatorial pardon in 2014.

Opening the conversation about record clearance in this way “has the ability to tell a larger narrative, which in this case, is largely about humanizing someone,” Cumberbatch said, noting the power of framing the conversation around people, not convictions, when it comes to talking about individuals who have juvenile or criminal records.

“It doesn’t mean that it’s a win, and everyone can pack up and go home,” he said. “But it is a way to shift culture.”

Listen to the first episode here, and stay tuned for information on the next episode of For the Record.

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